Sound is something that takes you in the direction of its origin……

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“Sound is something that takes you in the direction of its origin.”
TKV Desikachar speaking with his senior Western students London 1998

The ancient people took the next step……

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“The ancient people took the next step.
If there is disease what is to be done?
What is the cause of the disease?
The cause of the disease is that we are unable to follow Īśvara Praṇidhānā.”
TKV Desikachar France 1983

After having seen the consequences of your action……

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“After having seen the consequences of your action,
to think and then to jump,
not the other way round.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

General outline on Cikitsa Krama……

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“General outline on Cikitsa Krama.
More sophisticated than Śikṣaṇa Krama.
Already when you know an object it is seen differently by different people.
So when I offer a healing object it is seen as a cause of disease by others.
One mind can influence minds differently,
because different minds receive things differently.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

Change is universal but not the same for everybody…..

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Question to TKV Desikachar on Pariṇāma:
“Change is universal but not the same for everybody.
Pariṇāma gives life to Saṃskāra.
Saṃskāra gives stability to Pariṇāma.
So there is an order in any change.
If there is no Pariṇāma or Saṃskāra there is no Vidyā or Avidyā.”
TKV Desikachar France 1983

We can summarise all the Bheda into three……

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“We can summarise all the Bheda into three:
Saṃskāra Bheda (division by tendencies)
Pariṇāma Bheda (division by transformation or change)
Avidyā Bheda (division by illusion)
They are not bad things, only different.
We need to recognise and do something so the negative differences don’t take us over.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

Thus we can only know Avidyā through īśvara Praṇidhānā by……

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“Thus we can only know Avidyā through Īśvara Praṇidhānā by action and its results.”
TKV Desikachar France 1983

Patañjali says if we fail in our action it is because we started wrong.

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Patañjali says if we fail in our action it is because we started wrong.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

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The relationship we have developed with the fruits of our actions is……

The relationship we have developed with the fruits of our actions

“The relationship we have developed with the fruits of our actions is Īśvara Praṇidhānā
TKV Desikachar France 1983

īśvara Praṇidhānā – How do we take the fruit of our action?

How do we take the fruit of our action?

Īśvara Praṇidhānā – How do we take the fruit of our action?”
TKV Desikachar France 1983

īśvara Praṇidhānā – What is our attitude towards our own action?

What is our attitude towards our own action?

Īśvara Praṇidhānā
What is our attitude towards our own action?”
TKV Desikachar France 1983

The re-action of Tapas should lead you towards Svādhyāya……

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Svādhyāya
Reflecting on our actions will tell us something about oneself.
The word means going toward oneself.
The re-action of Tapas should lead you towards Svādhyāya.
Also means study of texts.
For example Haṭha Yoga Pradīpikā and Pūrṇa Matsyendrāsana.
Is the effect different from what it said will happen?
This leads to Svādhyāya and Anumāna or to a teacher.”
TKV Desikachar France 1983

Patañjali has proposed 3 approaches to verify the indications……

Yoga Sūtra Chapter Two verse 1
tapaḥ svādhyāya-īśvara-praṇidhānāni kriyā-yogaḥ
“The activities of Yoga are self-discipline, self-study and contemplation on the divine.”

Patañjali has proposed 3 approaches to verify the indications.
Tapas – Process of action
FoodĀsanaPrāṇāyāma.
You will be doing something that you will not be habitually doing.
For example one day no salt, cigarettes, Prāṇāyāma.
Tapas is from the root to create thirst.
It means to deprive.
It will tell us about ourselves.
It will reveal our Saṃskāra and Pariṇāma or changes in ourselves.
From this Tapas we will start to get an indication of our individual nature.
For example active or lazy.
Tapas indicates the the beginning of the Bheda, through the Bhāva.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

Most important, if we make a fundamental mistake about the student or……

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“Most important, if we make a fundamental mistake about the student or the teacher,
then everything else is wrong.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

There are also other practices such as such as during certain……

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“There are also other practices such as during certain moon phases.
These help prepare us for the eventuality.
Still more variations according to a persons background.
How do we adapt these ideas in our Yoga Sādhana?”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

According to Manu’s authority of behaviour, in Kālī Yuga Saṃyāsa……

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“According to Manu’s authority on behaviour,
in Kālī Yuga Saṃyāsa is not possible!
Sthiti Krama (sustaining phase of life) is a transition to the next stage
where you begin to accept the inevitable.
There is a great Saṃskāra of youth.
We then accept that there will be a setting of the Sun.
You eat less, reflect more, you think of God.
This is Saṃhara Krama (sequence of drawing together, contracting).”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

Even if one’s Guru says a certain thing will happen and it happens……

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“Even if one’s Guru says a certain thing will happen and it happens,
that is still Vikalpa, as it has not gone through the necessary progression.
When you take the word of the Guru for authority,
unless you put it through the process of discriminative investigation (Viveka),
the mere acceptance of it, even if true, because it suits your fancy
i.e. Vikalpa, will not make it valid for you.”
TKV Desikachar Madras December 19th 1988

The means to knowledge i.e. our method of knowing, involves a……

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“The means to knowledge
i.e. our method of knowing (Pramāṇa – right perception), involves a progression,
a movement from Āgama (authentic teachings),
what we hear or perceive or learn from authoritative sources;
to Pratyakṣa (through the senses) to see the fire, itself, the fact, the truth, the reality.
Such a means to know is a movement from the gross to the subtle.
In Vikalpa, we don’t have this progression.”
TKV Desikachar Madras December 19th 1988

Through Vikalpa, the mind fabricates thoughts of no essence……

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“Through Vikalpa,
the mind fabricates thoughts of no essence, no substance;
and since meditation is, for most of us, the play of the mind,
Vikalpa is the greatest obstacle.”
TKV Desikachar Madras December 19th 1988

The biggest obstacle to meditation is Vikalpa……

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“The biggest obstacle to meditation is Vikalpa,
the ability of the mind to fabricate in spite of reality.”
KV Desikachar Madras December 19th 1988

Sthiti Krama – Having grown, not to become old too soon

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“Sthiti Krama – Having grown, not to become old too soon, let us maintain a status quo.
Sthiti Krama (the middle sequence in the growing, sustaining and contraction phases of the life process) is for a person who has responsibilities, marriage, work.
No longer a full time student.
Still time for Svādhyāya.
Preservation of what you have received as a student.
So Sthiti Krama very critical in one’s life.
The difference is that you have your own responsibilities.
You cannot forsake them to study this or that.
Considered important because it is a challenge from 25-60 to sustain this position.
Because it is very difficult, there is a great excuse for escaping Svādhyāya.
We must do it to handle or approach problems around us – children, students, etc.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

So as such it should be Sṛṣṭi Krama for a certain level of people……

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“In the indian tradition we have the idea of Varṇa-Āśrama-Dharma and Dharma-Artha-Kāma-Mokṣa.
According to a persons environment, development or stage of activity in life, the choice must vary.
Which will help a person grow at the body and mental level?
So as such it should be Sṛṣṭi Krama for a certain level of people.
In old times. up to the age of 24 years should be in the direction of Sṛṣṭi Krama.
In other words more risk taken with the body, more ability to grasp ideas.
i.e. Vinyāsa almost like gymnastics.
Not suitable for older person starting Yoga.
We need to be open to this beautiful idea of adaptation.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

Śikṣaṇa has different Krama which can be looked into……

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Śikṣaṇa has different Krama which can be looked into.
For example Sṛṣṭi Krama to grow, create, develop – physically or mentally.
In some situations Sṛṣṭi Krama is more important.
For example in Āsana, ideas of relaxation not valid.
So more work, more strength, more activity.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

Saṃyama can be on……

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Saṃyama can be on the physical, as in Hasta on the strength of an elephant.
Or Saṃyama on Saṃskāra,
an investigation of mental tendencies leading to an understanding of past traits.
Or on Grahaṇa,
going into the idea of how the senses hold objects,
what is the basis inside for sense perceptions.
This leads to Indriya Jaya.
Patañjali is giving indications that these practices are possible.
Īśvara Praṇidhāna is quoted more than once, through investigation of this idea he tells us that it is this that makes a person aware of their true self
– Tataḥ Pratyak Cetanā Adhigamaḥ (YS Chapter One verse 29).
Sādhana can be physical, senses, mental, spiritual.”
TKV Desikachar France 1983

What is the greatest obstacle to meditation?

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“Question: What is the greatest obstacle to meditation?”
TKV Desikachar Madras December 19th 1988